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Many of you may have heard of a “ministry” technique that sprang up several years ago called “Theophostics”. This is a sort of “deliverance ministry” that involves specialized prayer training and non-biblically derived principles to overcome spiritual “strongholds” in a person’s life. Over the years, the popularity of this “program” has been increasing – as has its controversy. The ministry’s headquarters has even acknowledged the controversy and admits to their continual modification of the doctrine to make it better align with the truth (click here for quote). But…

Please note founder Ed Smith’s original claims:

    …over the course of the next few weeks a simple yet profound principle began to emerge. It was as though a spigot had been turned on and the insight of this process began to flow through my mind. – Ed Smith; Beyond Tolerable Recovery. TheoPhostic Counseling p. 30After I had searched long and hard for that ‘better’ method, He [God] gave me TheoPhostic so I would have no room to boast. – Ed Smith; Beyond Tolerable Recovery. TheoPhostic Counseling p. 31

    Theophostic Prayer Ministry is not new in concept only in intention. God has been operating on these same principles though out history.” – Ed Smith; Healing Life’s Hurts Through TheoPhostic Prayer (Newly Revised Edition, 2005) p. 10.

    TheoPhostic counseling is not a spin-off of any other traditional approach to counseling. – Ed M. Smith; Breakthroughs in Biblical Counseling and Genuine Inner Healing. (FAX regarding TheoPhostic Training Seminars Campbellsville, KY) p. 4.

Now, PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING: Ed Smith (founder) himself, who originally came out saying boldly that his teaching was directly from the Holy Spirit and did not contain any secular inner-healing methods, has since amended his own training materials admitting the former error/untruth (proving that those mindsets have in fact influenced his doctrine – note the following quote):

    Previous editions of this manual are now out of date and no longer represent the current teaching of this ministry… I came from an eclectic background that included some of the very practices that I now reject. – Ed Smith, in his new Basic Seminar Manual

This is VERY important: Even though Ed claims to have now amended his former errors (yet again), which we would hope is a good thing, it should be pointed out that these “former errors” were once touted by the very same man as being the instruction of the Holy Spirit and not the product of any New Age inner healing method or outside influence. He proclaimed this in live seminars and in written teaching materials! I repeat, this man once proclaimed to thousands of people that the entire TheoPhostic principle and practice came by DIVINE INSTRUCTION – and now he claims that several elements of that very instruction are “out of date” and were influenced by practices that he now rejects and acknowledges as false!!!

Ask yourself, what really is the credibility of a man who, only a short time ago, claimed emphatically that God directly gave him instruction, but who turns around in a moment (especially after he has been hit with a ton of scrutiny) and then says some of that very instruction was NOT from God after all and was inspired by false practices? Do you honestly believe you could trust a man like this? How would you really know if perhaps some of things he is still saying are “from God” are perhaps really from ungodly influences? Would you be able to still accept that he operates with any qualifiable, proven discernment of Truth at all? The evidence would lead most people to an obvious conclusion; Most likely not! This man clearly propagated error in the name of God! Facts are facts.

Let me just reiterate this another way… This man literally led thousands to open themselves up to techniques that were inspired by New Age and humanistic philosophy but told them these were from God and not from any other source!!! Regardless of whether or not you believe his intentions were good and maybe he made an honest mistake, you must at least acknowledge the fact that he did not speak the truth. He led people into error, claiming to be convinced of a certainty that God was leading him and that God directly gave him these practices! He persuaded people to trust his report and, inadvertently, accept false teaching.

Remember his original proclamation:it was as though a spigot had been turned on and the insight of this process began to flow through my mind. But if he now admits there were errors in the original teachings that were not from God, then where was this “spigot of insight” actually flowing from? This is a vital question that every believer who has considered using these principles ought to strongly contemplate!

To further illustrate and emphasize how concerning this issue is, it is interesting how Ed has changed some of the other former accounts in his writings to distance himself from his prior claims of divine revelation. As you read earlier, he clearly said that God gave him the TheoPhostic method. The section from the book where this quote was taken has since been amended in Smith’s newly revised book, Healing Life’s Hurts Through TheoPhostic Prayer. Ed now claims, “I am not saying that I had a divine revelation, because I did not.” (p. 18)

So, you decide… Is he lying or did he just forget?

The problem remains that details of the ministry’s doctrine continue to be amended and there are large amounts of unbiblical and false teaching contained in the teaching materials still! Christians please beware! When asked who needs Theophostic prayer, Ed Smith’s website boldly answered the question saying, The answer is, all of us. Not one of us is exempt. #15 – Miscellaneous Questions (theophostic.com)

As if these facts alone weren’t cause enough for concern, the ministry also has published specialized training guides for Roman Catholics, claiming that Theophostic ministry works just as well with the doctrines and practices of Roman Catholicsm – not even dealing with the fact that Roman Catholic doctrine and practice does NOT align with pure biblical doctrine or first century historical Christianity and, in fact, teaches a different Gospel entirely!

“Theophostic® Counseling (TPM; a.k.a. TheoPhostic Counseling, Theophostic Ministry) shares most of its fundamental beliefs with Recovered Memory Therapy (a.k.a. RMT)… During the 1980s and 1990s, RMT seriously harmed many tens of thousands of its victims, drove some to suicide, and disrupted tens of thousands of families of origin. Many of its victims were counseled in a conservative Christian religious setting. Since TPM and RMT are so closely related, we urge the reader avoid becoming involved in TPM or in any other similar experimental therapy. We suspect that TPM has the same potential for evil, if it becomes widely used.” – B.A. Robinson of Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance

Jan Fletcher, Christian journalist and founder of LyingSpirits.com (who has also written an extensive book on the subject of theophostics – see links below), remarked: “Theophostic is the most dangerous of all the inner healing methods seen until now. I say this because it’s cloaked so well, in such biblical terminology, and its mystical methods are so streamlined and simple, it will undoubtedly fool even mature Christians.” Simply said, there is great cause for Christians to crank up their discernment and not be duped by false teachers and false doctrines. Jesus warned us:

    Matthew 24:24-25 (MSG)“Fake Messiahs and lying preachers are going to pop up everywhere. Their impressive credentials and dazzling performances will pull the wool over the eyes of even those who ought to know better. But I’ve given you fair warning.”

On top of the unbiblical teachings and controversy is the fact that materials for the program are not cheap – many items costing hundreds of dollars, not to mention the price of conferences and training seminars! One ought to wonder how a group that claims to have the answer from God to spiritually heal lives (an answer that was supposedly given freely to the ministry’s founder, Ed Smith) gets away with prostituting the so-called “gift of God”? Of course the answer to that question is obvious; the program is designed to make money and it never came from God to begin with.

The ministry’s website has tried to respond to the massive criticism of the program by offering a detailed list of guidelines to observe when encountering other groups that espouse a theophostic approach to deliverance (oddly enough, there is no warning to beware of Ed Smith’s frequently changing elements of his doctrine, which makes even the headquarters’s ministry an untrustworthy source). The ministry’s own website even gives a bold warning to be wary of people that teach theophostics because of the great potential for error involved and even recommends the purchase of other books by the ministry for dealing with these kinds of potential problems!

One ought to ask the simple question, “since when did the doctrine of Christ become insufficient to deal with our sin, our problems and our weaknesses?” Are we really healed by His stripes as the Scripture claims, or is it His stripes and TheoPhostics. It seems Ed Smith would have people believe the latter.

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The fact that this ministry actually has to issue a warning for its own program and continues to amend principles it formerly claimed were given by God should cause every believer that has been exposed to this group to throw up the red flags.
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The good news is that, though Ed Smith’s organization continues to amend its teaching because of critics, this proves that the criticism and wise discernment of believers is having a bold effect – making it harder and harder for groups like this to exist without tripping all over their propagated deceptions. The organization’s website now offers a checklist for how to gauge which critics you can trust! Excuse me a moment… hahahahaha! It should come as no surprise that one of the checkpoints for gauging a “positive critic” is to see if the critic has first submitted himself to the doctrine and participated in TheoPhostic ministry! Strange requirement isn’t it? After all, if we were investigating some other cult practice, I’m sure they would rather us join and submit our lives to it too first before we critique it too wouldn’t they? Amazing! Watch out my brothers and sisters!


UPDATE 5/12/2011


Elijah House Prayer Ministry

– being sued


Editorial Comment: Some time back CWM issued a warning about Theophostic Counseling which had been adopted by “DUNAMIS” (Brisbane, pastors Shawn Hanson and Trevor Chandler) and by others. We believe that the following report justifies our warning:


Go to: www.lyingspirits.com/news2006.html — for an interesting summary of law suits originating in British Columbia, Canada, involving the so-called “Christian prayer counseling” ministry of Elijah House, founded by U.S. residents John and Paula Sandford.

They use “inner healing” techniques drawn from occultism, especially the “recovery” of repressed memories in order to heal those memories (as they say). This is sometimes called “Theophostic Prayer Counseling” (TPC). Elijah House counselors are, among other things, taught to help people recover emotional wounds and hidden memories in order to “apply the healing power of Jesus” through prayer.  In my book True to His Ways6 I compared this practice with kundalini yoga (which is actually orthodox Hinduism). In yoga, practitioners uncover repressed memories and then apply the healing power of kundalini (i.e., the serpent).

Eastern thought, not the Bible, is the source of such practice.

In the early 1990s a Canadian lawyer, under the tutelage of John Sandford, left her law practice to head up Canadian operations for Elijah House. However, they closed down the Canadian offices in the early 2000s. Around that time a man sued for divorce, saying his marriage was torn apart as a result of counseling that caused his wife to have false memories of sexual and satanic abuse. Recently, the wife apparently realized that she had been deluded and she sued Elijah House. More information is in linked statement.

In 2005 one of the leaders of Elijah House personally told me they were planning to send representatives to carry their teaching into individual churches, especially in the USA, having decided that they need to take their practices directly into church congregations.

Source article posted on www.christian-witness.org from an Australian newsletter called True To His Ways. (Original document is in PDF format)


Below are some links to websites containing detailed examination about the errors this organization propagates. Be wary of the smooth talk this group uses to claim its methods are in line with Scripture. They are not and should be avoided. The links below will open in a new webpage:

More information will be posted as we become aware of it. May the Lord increase your discernment and enable you to find His will in your seeking and your ministry to other members of the Body of Christ. Please feel free to share this page and information with friends and family. This page is provided courtesy of TruthForFree.com. Introductory comments were authored by David Yeubanks (of TruthForFree.com) with excerpts from actual TheoPhostic training resources and other related publications.


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17 Responses to TheoPhostics: Pseudo-Christian, Inner-Healing Deception

  • The way people use the term “spiritual stronghold” sounds akin to “spiritual constipation” in a most spiritual anal way, ahem, legalistic way.


  • Been doing a lot of research on the subject of “Christian inner healing rooms/ministries. One in particular the “Sozo ministry” from what I read it VERY similar to Theophostic. Does anyone have any information on Sozo or any sites that I could check out regarding the dangers of it. I have found only a handful of blogs; it seems that this “Sozo ministry” is taking the churches by storm and it appears to be very dangerous, as one level of the Sozo deals with split personalities.


  • Hi Pat… I just posted a new blog article (02/02/2011) on Sozo… It’s not an in-depth review. More of an overview and first impressions commentary. I am going to try adding some links to warning and cult-watch sites that deal with this movement so watch the blog post for updates. Any sites I find I will append to the bottom of the article. Thanks for spotting this one! God bless!


  • I just came upon your site today. My comments are appearing months later, so I hope they still may be helpful and of interest.

    I have been studying not only Theophostics Prayer Ministry, and Sozo, but mainly Elijah House Prayer Ministries, founded by John and Paula Sandford. I found that John and Paula were mentored by Agnes Sanford, who followed trails through New Thought,eastern religions, and also adapted a lot of her “deep dives into the ‘unconscience'(inner child) psychobabble from Freud, and Carl Jung.

    Some of common aspects of these ‘Prayer Ministry cults’ are once you are so ministered to by various ‘trained prayer teams’, you are encouraged to join in, and become a ‘ceritifed prayer practicioner’ yourself. Ofcourse this means you will have to become a molded, dedicated,and loyal addition to the body of fellow ministers, and by all means bring along your checkbook!

    For example, Phase I of E.H.P.M. ten day training conferences are priced starting around $600.00. (*But, first you must buy John Sandford’s book, Transformation of the Inner Man, as required reading prior to the conference.) The full spread of training can extend into well over a year, and call for investments into primary and advanced workbooks, and other trainging materials. (All copywritten and sold online for each canadate’s convenience).

    Because these forms of psychologized Christian ministry methods are selling like hotcakes they are quickly growing,and expanding, and ‘coming soon to a church near you’.

    A fairly easy way to screen many of these are to Google: Prayer Ministry heresy, or each ministry form by founders name(s).

    Sadly you won’t find a lack of church web sites that endorse, and even set up branches located in their own facilities. That is once members of the congregation are so endoctrinated to form “certified ministry teams”, who then operate under the’trainer’s’ oversight.

    Some of these ministry forms have run into some hot water situations, and ended up in court. Even Ed Smith (Theophostic Prayer Ministry founder)has published, “How to Keep Your Minsitry Out of Litigation”.

    A very good watchword for researching these ministry forms is to ask yourself, “Okay, now where do I find this in the Bible?”

    Key terms: regression,inner child,inner healing,healing of memories,the universal unconscious,and visualization to name a few.

    Finally, here is a sample of Agnes Sanford’s theology as referenced in “Abusing Memory”, by Jane Gumprecht,M.D. page 153, “Jesus, our time traveler, literally takes us back through our memories and heals them. He entered the collective unconsious of mankind on the cross. We contact our inner child through visualization or creative imagination with Jesus as our spirit guide. Freudian/Jungian unconscious governs our lives.


  • Thanks for sharing Curt. These topics are frequented by many visitors to the site, so I’m sure readers will appreciate the added heads-up. Thanks again! 🙂


  • I’ve been searching on this new SOZO healing technique for a while. It is not because I am interested in the methods, but rather, because I was a victim of their practice; and if anything, only to validate my belief that they are very much an occultist, new age, psychology group. Yes’ I was duped into going to one of these deep-healing sessions, where they frequently call on a ‘spirit’, only they put holy in front of it saying – holy spirit, what would you want me to know about this person, – did you catch that, not Lord Jesus, what would your Holy Spirit… – then they begin to travel down memory lane with you, emphasizing that you delve deeper into your life. When they work through your wounds of hatred, violence, etc’ they continue to ask you to forgive ‘whom-ever offended you (deep wounds). But, as the minutes clicked by, it seemed that the leader of the 3 trained (non-licensed) counselors became a little anxious and less interested in violence. Then introducing abuse– saying: “the holy spirit is telling me you were abused…” – “13, 12, 9, 7… – physical abuse? Excessive beating; (of course… ) they ask to forgive… – then, they reach even deeper- saying that the holy spirit is saying ‘your father, and 3, 2, 1? your father –? “the holy spirit is telling me… now hinting that it is not just physical abuse, but… humn! Needless to say, at this point I began to see right through them and became a bit irritated at the suggesting…- especially since I never even hinted to such notions. This senior guy went where no Christian in his/her right mind would go in suggesting – molestation at 1 or 2 years old. Come on! Really! I nearly jumped right out of my chair. Now check this out (GOD being the awesome God that he is); ironically, 7 years earlier, I had this neighbor who confided in my wife and I – and when this ‘something’ devastated her, to the point of challenging her sanity – ‘she being told by persons in a counseling session at her church (the same church I was now attending) that she had deep wounds of rape by her father when she was 3 or 4 years of age – even though she stated that it had never happened – she stated to me that she was coaxed into believing and then forgiving her father of this phantom wound/sin. This is the same church that I am speaking of – sounds all too familiar, doesn’t it? A mental control type session – the gambling for souls so that the church get lucky in convicting that soul to a lifetime of loyal servitude (spiritual warfare). Therefore, be very aware and careful with this movement of TPM and SOZO ministries – they are new-age and based off of psychology and the power of suggestion. They are very dangerous as well as damaging. If you truly believe in Jesus Christ as your advocate to the Father – then, why would we even venture into mans understanding. Emmanuel is more powerful and don’t let anyone tell you different.


  • I have a daughter that very much has multiple personality disorder, and I have looked everywhere for help for her, she is adopted and has been more severely abused than anyone I have ever known…..there is no help out there for kids like her….There is a lot you don’t know and things you all just assume. It must be nice to have all the answers…I hope none of you ever have to really deal with spiritual; things because you wont now how.


  • I’m very sorry to hear about your daughter. My prayers go out to you and your daughter. I’m not sure who your comments were targeted at though. Have you had a positive experience with TheoPhostics? Is that the reason for the angry response? There are some great counselling services out there that are Gospel-based. I have a couple of friends that have gone to a center here in town called Good Samaritan. They are excellent and free. While I sympathize with your pain and can understand the desperation to see your daughter healed, I still could not resort to ungodly methods to seek a cure. You are right though; there is plenty I don’t know about a lot of things and I don’t claim to have all the answers. I apologize if the manner in which I shared something offended you. My heart is to embrace the truth and encourage right relationship with God as the source for all of life’s issues, no matter how difficult. My heart is not to offend anyone. I have dealt with complex spiritual conflict in the past and have witnessed in the lives of close friends and family. I sympathize with you and I believe that Jesus really is the answer. Continue to seek Him. I will be praying that God gives you wisdom and brings healing to your daughter.


  • (SRCarter) In response to a previous posting, I know you are hurting and there is little that we, as ordinary people, can do, to comfort you. But as a Christian, if you permit me, I do solemnly offer you this – to stay true to your first love, our Savior, the Christ, Jesus. He can and will set your daughter free – though, only through the splendor of his way – his will, not ours. I am sure you are already aware that he will not just share his greatness with just anyone, lest they brag. It has to be an absolute surrender in desiring to know him and his will. Now I am not saying that you do not know him, but do you trust his will? I pray that you not take me as arrogant, but rather sincere to see your daughter delivered. Contrary to your statement, I have experienced much spiritual warfare in my lifetime; many an incident with others around to witness the oddity. I. as like you and many others, know that the LORD has been protecting me – and it was only at my spiritual maturity that I began to understand that the LORD was waiting on me while the other side attempted to destroy me. Continue to seek his anointing power, knowing that although your daughter is in turmoil, he, Christ, Jesus, is waiting for her. If I may, rather than continue, let me offer you a book that helped me understand my position in the LORD – [ He Came To Set the Captives Free by Rebecca Brown MD ] controversial, and one of the hardest books I’ve ever had the pleasure in reading]. This book was given to me back in the 90’s in which I simply tossed into a closet, only to finally read it when found back in 2007. For me it made a big difference in myself understanding the full extent of spiritual warfare and the confrontations and strongholds of the other side. Ignorance is their power for the unsuspecting victim – hence SOZO, TheoPhostics or any other psychological based religious practices that thrive on adding to ones spiritual fight. The power is within when it is one on one with Him, through Jesus, the Christ. In ending, do not give into familiar worldly teachings – a teaching that can, if you believe, open further spiritual doors. Deep wounds are real, but can be overcome by sincere and absolute surrender to the Lord. And the way I see it, if a person has a strong spiritual connection with our Father in heaven (no matter how unjust it may sound) a spiritual target is painted on them by dark forces, and yes, I do mean demons; spiritual warfare. A real attempt to destroy ‘His’ elect. But enough of that; if you haven’t already, read this book, read it with your daughter and pray together for His, the LORD strength, again, again… This is where you must discern for yourself between our GOD’s power and the limitations of this worlds understanding – no matter how good an intention may be. Thus, it is ultimately her decision in surrendering absolutely to our Lord Jesus, who will then open the door to the Father. – I offer your daughter and you peace, I pray you peace to keep, in the name of Jesus Christ – God bless.


  • I can’t speak for others but we charge nothing to minister to broken people. We have found that we are all broken and need freedom! We’ve been a part of a similar ministry now for approximately 13 years. We have seen literally hundreds of people set free. We have seen people healed of multiple personality disorders, physical illnesses you name it- healed. We don’t tell people what God wants them to do et cetera. God leads people to the lies in their lives and reveals Himself to them and heals them. It is not counseling, psychiatry etc. the Holy Spirit is the one who leads. At least with what we do. We don’t counsel anyone. It’s easy to attack what we don’t understand and make it cultic. The reality is that hundreds of people have been freed and now even our high school is starting to send their problem children to us. Amazing how much the enemy wants to set people free and how good he is! That was obviously very tongue in cheek! Sad how many Christians attribute the hand of God to Satan. The pharisees did it then and the cessationalists (those who deny God’s power working thru His kids and speaking to them, revealing Himself etc today) attack what they don’t understand. God is good all the time and the enemy does not heal God’s kids that have pure hearts and desire to please the father. Attack on but beware you might find yourself resisting God Himself! So scary how many Christians do just that because they are so sure their interpretation of the Word is right. The end result-loved ones and even they themselves stay bound!


  • Thanks for your feedback Pat. I understand why would you think I am attacking a God thing because your experience has not appeared to be negative. It’s true I cannot directly speak to your personal experience except to respectfully offer my opinion, which is that deception rarely ever feels wrong. There have been things in my past that I once attributed to God, but later the scales came off my eyes and I actually found myself repenting. One of the biggest deceptions I believe exists with TheoPhostics is that it presents PERCEIVED healings, not necessarily actual. I have close, personal friends who have been involved with it and experienced some very serious manipulation – all done in the name of the Holy Spirit. One of my friends was led through the “event” to accept that she had been molested by her father as a child. I have known her family and specifically her father for years. This was a disgusting lie itself from the devil, masked as “the Holy Spirit.” Thankfully, she did not believe this destructive lie. My point in sharing this is that makes sense to me that the devil can introduce lies in the name of “exposing the lie” and thus a person is set free from a false lie (if there even is such a thing) that was only just introduced by the devil… In other words, this was not an actual healing or deliverance at all, but a demonic con job. I’ve watched it happen many times, so I am not persuaded by the argument that says, “it has to be true because there are countless healings”. Remember, when Moses threw down his rod and it became a snake… the Pharaoh’s magicians did the same trick! The devil indeed has power (especially power to work deception). Before I’ll believe for a second that I could be resisting Christ’s work, you better be able to make it very clear how TheoPhostic doctrine is taught by Jesus at all in Scripture.

    The simple truth is NONE of this stuff in TheoPhostics is the least bit biblical. It is an absolute, undisputed fact that the creator of TheoPhostics was fully trained in secular new age therapeutic tactics. It is an absolute fact that he has CHANGED the wording over the years in his training materials to avoid scrutiny. It is an absolute fact that there are things he once declared were given to him by divine inspiration that he later dismisses or avoids or says that he never taught, when there is much evidence to the contrary. This so-called “ministry” is a money-milking program full of deceptive doctrine. I really am sorry if my opinion offends. I hate to be at odds with anyone, but I feel so strongly about this – especially with TheoPhostics. I know that God sometimes works good in spite of the errors we make, because He loves us, is longsuffering with us, and will not deny those who genuinely reach out to Him in spirit and truth. When we have knowledge of error and deception, is there any more reason for excuses? Is not God also just? Is there a point when truth becomes more important than our emotionally-based perception? I think many people who profess to be followers of Jesus need to wake up and examine themselves to see whether they are really in the faith! I tend to get animated about this subject because I have personally witnessed the damage it causes! May God help all of us to see more clearly.


  • I sadly have been sinning by adultery of the heart, though not actually with a real woman. Convicted by 1 Corinthians 13 via a wise 10 year old, I confessed my sin only to be outcast by the Christian community where my family lives in SOZO environment.

    Aside from that they gave her and our children until end of Aug to leave. Below is the ultimatum my wife ordered on me if I wanted to reconcile. This causes me to think of ‘Jezebel’ spirit, not my precious wife . Some of these items I can do but my conscience cannot and will not submit to any further SOZO prayer techniques, unscriptural and NOT to not chemical pharmaceuticals to fix my‘wrong’ personality.

    Wife’s untimtum to me her husband:
    “Produce fruit in keeping with repentance.
    Wisdom is proved right by her actions.
    -Husband find a place to stay, away from the base and our family, as he embraces the process of healing and restoration….
    -Find a treatment for mental state and be consistent with recommendations of health care provider.
    -Make an apt. for SOZO at Neighborhood
    -Seek out a trained counselor, and begin regular sessions aimed at healing from brokenness, forming healthy behavior patterns. Address addictions for deliverance/healing/restoration. Perhaps a program might aid in this process? But not replace.
    -Submission to authority in all areas of life.
    -Find an accountability partner for complete, fully transparent accountability in all areas… someone to stand toe-to-toe, walk alongside — impartial. Someone to aid in learning to walk in wisdom as the man of God he is called to be.
    -Boundaries with family… scheduled visits/pre-arranged visits and contact only per recommendations of Counselor. No “showing up” unannounced. Loving limits.
    -Allow me time for healing process without emotional intimidation or manipulation.
    -Above process no less than 4-6 months to be able determine if actions follow words in order to begin to re-establish trust. (scheduled, leadership-approved contact/visits can begin as other components above-mentioned happen as recommended by Counselor/or Psychiatrist/Psychologist)
    – find a place to stay, away from the base and our family, as he embraces the process of healing and restoration….

    Wife wrote:

    “find a treatment for mental state and be consistent with recommendations of health care provider. I am in process of evaluation by B—e Public Mental Health .”

    Husband wrote:

    . “Thus far mental health staff say to me: “What are you doing here?!”
    Wife wrote: “Make an apt. for SOZO at———— a local church immersed in SOZO techniques.

    Husband wrote:

    “Not a chance in hell, for that is where sozo deception comes from. SOZO looks nice on the outside, but close scrutiny reveals reeking smell on the
    inside like the armpits of ‘Jezebel’”

    Wife wrote:

    “Seek out a trained counselor, and begin regular sessions aimed at healing from brokenness, forming healthy behavior patterns. Address addictions for deliverance/healing/restoration. Perhaps a program might aid in this process? But not replace. “

    Husband wrote:

    “ This is good but not only me. I have set mutual counseling, weekly for us by salvation Army officers starting on Thursday at 10 am. Salvation Army is my heritage denomination that does not participate in what I refer to as ‘sorcery/witchcraft’ disguised as ‘ sozo’ prayer encounters, unbiblical rooted in the exercise of modern day Jezebel spirit ( a high level spiritual principality projecting from on the side of ‘Dark’ shall we say, masquerading as Light) that seeks to dominate men into subjection, weak and ‘neutered’”

    Let me say it another way:

    “Is there an evil trident known as 1.‘Leviathan’=Pride, 2. ‘Mammon’=$Power, and 3. ‘Jezebel’=Pleasure/control that guides global society? If so, the only solution for these 3P’s gone askew is 3S’s: 1. ‘Sacrifice’ = (like girl Lucy’s Great Lion Aslan), 2. Submission= All of one’s life to God and 3.‘Santification = the daily process of ‘dying to self’ so to speak.

    If you imagine in your mind an upright triangle with three points labeled with the 3P’s and an inverted over-layed triangle labeling the three points with 3S’s, then you will see the ‘Star of David.’ Imagine the 3 P’s triangle is blue and the 3S’s triangle is red. When the yellow Fire of God Jer 23:29 blazes, the ‘red’ and ‘blue’ mingle to form deep purple, the royal color of a mysterious Lion King, like CS Lewis Alsan on the stone alter of Four Corners, with where that Great Lion is the Center of Five Stars, recapturong the stolen imge by freemasonry…. ‘Aslan’ is the Center and His Blood -life is the Power of the Universe to ‘redeem’ ‘transform’ and ‘transition’ ‘bablon’s’ ‘Buying & Selling’ madness with Heaven’s ‘Giving & Receiving’ economy….I will stop here on this matter…

    Now, if you six sided star imagine in 3D then you will see the symbol like pyramid with eye on back of USA dollar bill. The eye is Pride and/or spirit of Mammon (“serve God or Mammon said one wise carpenter Man of Jewish history”) If you can imagine this 3D image in your mind, you will see may also see a perfect cube in the center symbolizing the ‘city of God’ approaching. ‘New Jerusalem’. These are quite likely matters that much ‘new age’ is confused about when they look to the stars in unhealthy astrology, yet astronomy science which is good. You may also ‘see’ in your mind a sphere like an aura encircling the whole 3D image. The Triune Spirit of God.

    These are just some of the things someone ‘saw’ in prayer/meditation if you will. Most Christians think people with sucvh ideas are weird or crazy. They are not, but crazy in Love with one’s wife and God, but not lunny toonie ( Now
    Disney’s expression of the ‘Chronicle of Narnia’ is fun)

    Wife wrote:

    “Submission to authority in all areas of life.”

    Husband wrote:

    “ Yes this is an inner accountability to a ‘Greater Power’ (‘Aslan’ ;and another man or trusted woman, for the great Gift that eminates from within ones spirit is rooted in that Great Sacrifice mentioned above.”

    Wife Wrote:

    “Find an accountability partner for complete, fully transparent accountability in all areas… someone to stand toe-to-toe, walk alongside — impartial. Someone to aid in learning to walk in wisdom as the man of God he is called to be.”

    Husband wrote:


    Wife Wrote:

    “Boundaries with family… scheduled visits/pre-arranged visits and contact only per recommendations of Counselor. No “showing up” unannounced. Loving limits.”

    Husband wrote:

    “ I am not dangerous to my children. This is far too controlling element of what I refer to as ‘jezebel’ spirit running rampant in American today, especially in sector that calls itself evangelical ‘church’”

    Wife wrote:

    “Allow me time for healing process without emotional intimidation or manipulation.”

    Husband wrote:

    “That’s reasonable but not as listed below: I willfully left out home last week when she was terrified given in to a heated emotional situation rooted in spiritual matters quite likely. I did not nor will I ever agree to all of these demands.

    Wife wrote:

    “Above process no less than 4-6 months to be able determine if actions follow words in order to begin to re-establish trust. (scheduled, leadership-approved contact/visits can begin as other components above-mentioned happen as recommended by Counselor/or Psychiatrist/Psychologist)”

    Husband wrote:

    “I called, left two messages with a Pshchiatrist requesting scientific proof that I have ADD or ADHD as many non medical individuals claim I have. Waiting… for return call. I will never take ANY pharmaceutical medications again. “I will not submit to Big Pharm ‘dumbing down’ meds. Love is at the Center and Love is God.”His powertr is all the med one needs like the Moses’ medical symbol of snake on a pole where sin is cast there and the people are free. I did for 3 weeks in a developing country submit to pharaseutical drugs for supposede ‘ADHD’when serving as missonaries, and yes that poison imitated such things as certain strains of herbs, helping me think straight, but multiple negative physical effects i experienced far outweighed the mental benefits. Most if not all manmde chemicla concoction in a lab for mind health is bad. ll things natural are neutral, good in measure, not sin. It’s a matter of the heart and motivations.

    The JEZEBEL ISSUE in Society Today:
    1 Kings 21 New International Version (NIV) Naboth’s Vineyard:
    ……21 Some time later there was an incident involving a vineyard belonging to Naboth the Jezreelite. The vineyard was in Jezreel, close to the palace of Ahab king of Samaria. 2 Ahab said to Naboth, “Let me have your vineyard to use for a vegetable garden, since it is close to my palace. In exchange I will give you a better vineyard or, if you prefer, I will pay you whatever it is worth.”
    3 But Naboth replied, “The Lord forbid that I should give you the inheritance of my ancestors.”
    4 So Ahab went home, sullen and angry because Naboth the Jezreelite had said, “I will not give you the inheritance of my ancestors.” He lay on his bed sulking and refused to eat.
    5 His wife Jezebel came in and asked him, “Why are you so sullen? Why won’t you eat?”
    6 He answered her, “Because I said to Naboth the Jezreelite, ‘Sell me your vineyard; or if you prefer, I will give you another vineyard in its place.’ But he said, ‘I will not give you my vineyard.’”
    7 Jezebel his wife said, “Is this how you act as king over Israel? Get up and eat! Cheer up. I’ll get you the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite.”
    8 So she wrote letters in Ahab’s name, placed his seal on them, and sent them to the elders and nobles who lived in Naboth’s city with him. 9 In those letters she wrote:
    “Proclaim a day of fasting and seat Naboth in a prominent place among the people. 10 But seat two scoundrels opposite him and have them bring charges that he has cursed both God and the king. Then take him out and stone him to death.”
    11 So the elders and nobles who lived in Naboth’s city did as Jezebel directed in the letters she had written to them. 12 They proclaimed a fast and seated Naboth in a prominent place among the people. 13 Then two scoundrels came and sat opposite him and brought charges against Naboth before the people, saying, “Naboth has cursed both God and the king.” So they took him outside the city and stoned him to death. 14 Then they sent word to Jezebel: “Naboth has been stoned to death.”
    15 As soon as Jezebel heard that Naboth had been stoned to death, she said to Ahab, “Get up and take possession of the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite that he refused to sell you. He is no longer alive, but dead.” 16 When Ahab heard that Naboth was dead, he got up and went down to take possession of Naboth’s vineyard.
    17 Then the word of the Lord came to Elijah the Tishbite: 18 “Go down to meet Ahab king of Israel, who rules in Samaria. He is now in Naboth’s vineyard, where he has gone to take possession of it. 19 Say to him, ‘This is what the Lord says: Have you not murdered a man and seized his property?’ Then say to him, ‘This is what the Lord says: In the place where dogs licked up Naboth’s blood, dogs will lick up your blood—yes, yours!’”
    20 Ahab said to Elijah, “So you have found me, my enemy!”
    “I have found you,” he answered, “because you have sold yourself to do evil in the eyes of the Lord. 21 He says, ‘I am going to bring disaster on you. I will wipe out your descendants and cut off from Ahab every last male in Israel—slave or free.[a] 22 I will make your house like that of Jeroboam son of Nebat and that of Baasha son of Ahijah, because you have aroused my anger and have caused Israel to sin.’
    23 “And also concerning Jezebel the Lord says: ‘Dogs will devour Jezebel by the wall of[b] Jezreel.’
    24 “Dogs will eat those belonging to Ahab who die in the city, and the birds will feed on those who die in the country.”

    Husband writes interjects:

    “Not death of a human, my lovely wife hear me!!, but the dethroning of ‘entites’ (i.e. Eephsians 6, Jude 1)principlaities that cast authority given it by submissive humans they harass through thoughts & suggestions, thereby affecting emotions and physical realties that emerge with things like ultimatums to husbands who willfully confess wrongs led by reget and remorse seeking wholeness. while mezmorizing ‘sozo’ clincs in Redding CA like psycharitry offices are open for you to pay $75 per hour for sozo soaking prayer. I tell you the Spirit of Jesus stands again in the Temple with whip and ferocious zeal for His Father House the Church where His precious lambs baaa like those deceptive, hopefully honestly misguided leaders!”

    25 (There was never anyone like Ahab, who sold himself to do evil in the eyes of the Lord, urged on by Jezebel his wife. 26 He behaved in the vilest manner by going after idols, like the Amorites the Lord drove out before Israel.)
    27 When Ahab heard these words, he tore his clothes, put on sackcloth and fasted. He lay in sackcloth and went around meekly.
    28 Then the word of the Lord came to Elijah the Tishbite: 29 “Have you noticed how Ahab has humbled himself before me? Because he has humbled himself, I will not bring this disaster in his day, but I will bring it on his house in the days of his son.”

    2 Kings 9:
    Fulfillment later of Word spoken earlier by God……..24 Then Jehu drew his bow and shot Joram between the shoulders. The arrow pierced his heart and he slumped down in his chariot. 25 Jehu said to Bidkar, his chariot officer, “Pick him up and throw him on the field that belonged to Naboth the Jezreelite. Remember how you and I were riding together in chariots behind Ahab his father when the LORD spoke this prophecy against him: 26 ‘Yesterday I saw the blood of Naboth and the blood of his sons, declares the LORD, and I will surely make you pay for it on this plot of ground, declares the LORD.’[c] Now then, pick him up and throw him on that plot, in accordance with the word of the LORD.”
    27 When Ahaziah king of Judah saw what had happened, he fled up the road to Beth Haggan.[d] Jehu chased him, shouting, “Kill him too!” They wounded him in his chariot on the way up to Gur near Ibleam, but he escaped to Megiddo and died there. 28 His servants took him by chariot to Jerusalem and buried him with his ancestors in his tomb in the City of David. 29 (In the eleventh year of Joram son of Ahab, Ahaziah had become king of Judah.)
    Jezebel Killed
    30 Then Jehu went to Jezreel. When Jezebel heard about it, she put on eye makeup, arranged her hair and looked out of a window. 31 As Jehu entered the gate, she asked, “Have you come in peace, you Zimri, you murderer of your master?”[e]
    32 He looked up at the window and called out, “Who is on my side? Who?” Two or three eunuchs looked down at him. 33 “Throw her down!” Jehu said. So they threw her down, and some of her blood spattered the wall and the horses as they trampled her underfoot.
    34 Jehu went in and ate and drank. “Take care of that cursed woman,” he said, “and bury her, for she was a king’s daughter.” 35 But when they went out to bury her, they found nothing except her skull, her feet and her hands. 36 They went back and told Jehu, who said, “This is the word of the LORD that he spoke through his servant Elijah the Tishbite: On the plot of ground at Jezreel dogs will devour Jezebel’s flesh.[f] 37 Jezebel’s body will be like dung on the ground in the plot at Jezreel, so that no one will be able to say, ‘This is Jezebel.’”


  • Husband Rising. Your post is quite strange. It seems to me that you are attacking lunacy with lunacy. We are all guilty of adultery of the heart. Nowhere in the New Testament do we read of church members being disciplined because of wrong thoughts or inclinations, only from wrong acts. When Jesus taught that even if you look lustfully at another woman you are committing adultery he wasn’t advocating widening the definition, he was just calling a spade a spade. Committing actual adultery would be a church discipline matter, otherwise it would be compromised. But so long as you don’t compromise the church there is no reason for you to confess your sins and the church should not encourage you to do so.

    When we are told to confess our sins it is for mutual encouragement and so that we can lift each other up. Your church has merely humiliated you and that is abuse of you and your family. There are spiritual forces at work but we are largely ignorant of them. What we should not be ignorant of is their manifestations. Abuse bears the same mark whoever instigated it and there is absolutely no excuse. You can’t fight this alone. You need assistance unconnected with the church, possibly legal counselling.


  • Chris, You are correct in that I sould not have confessed anything to anyone in that Cristian communinty where SOZO inner prayer reverrd at $75 per hour to boot…..At an church in town they ‘do it’ for free.

    The thought of legal council has crossed my mind.

    The shady spiritual forces at work have to do with freemasonry. (Eph 6 Jude 1)The land was build by the masons, purchased by a Christian and given to the mission group I am aaffiliated with for 1$ back in 80’s

    Aside from that, I recently discovered certain minerals on the land of
    orgreat value worth millions if not billions of dollars. The director and others know about it. I can prove these statements with facts and testimony. The freemasons hid the mineral’s ‘concentration spot’at earth’s surface. with concretre an native american artifacts of great value to ancient tribal groups.

    Whenever great power in on the table the dark elements of the human heart shows it’s ugly head led by that dark trident known as Leviathan, Mammon and Jezebel

    But thanks to the person and work on Jesus Christ, and His lifeblood spilled for all sin and it’s effects. All powers and authorities must submkt to His headship, as those around the table prove their love for God by loving one another with actions that verify a certain heart condition.

    I haven’t seen my children now in two weeks. My heart broken


  • I’m afraid you overrate the power of the Freemasons. There’s a principle called Occam’s razor which says that the most obvious answer is most likely to be the correct one. In other words, don’t look for curses and dubious stories to explain something that has a more obvious cause. Ephesians 6 is about being alert and prepared. It doesn’t even begin to describe the forces at work. It says that your weapons are truth, faith, righteousness, assurance, readiness and knowledge – nothing mystical or magical or in any way strange. Jude has only 1 chapter and it is a little out there but the emphasis is on being true to God’s Word and not following myths and concocted stories that tickle your ears and make you sound wise when you don’t know what you are talking about.

    I was part of a group that had weird ideas and even when I left I still had weird ideas and I did things that I am now ashamed of. The plain truth is that these people have veered from God’s Word and have accepted a false gospel. Its very serious, far more serious than anything to do with the Freemasons. If I were you I would find a church that emphasises fellowship and sound teaching, not spiritual manifestations or spiritual warfare. When I left that group I couldn’t pray at all for 6 months and it was years before I got the poison out of my life.

    You need to treat your wife and kids as human beings just like any other normal husband and father would. Don’t get into discussions about spiritual matters and don’t try to compete with the church or accept that their behaviour is anything other than plain abuse. Try to be as normal as possible.


  • Want to know the Truth? some of my families and friends got involved and were spiritually decieved by so call Sozo healers, who claimed they saw vision, oh yea sure do…but nothing from God I know…why not? Because I believe in the Truth! That truth has already set me free! So they attended several sessions and revivals and now the’re facing physical and demonic attacks everywhere! That’s the Truth! I urge you to STAY AWAY FROM ANY SOZO! Its dangerous, non sense and NON BIBLICAL! that’s the Truth, they paid for this sozo healing big time $! True, But God’s deliverence is FREE! So True…Jesus never charged for his deliverence, the ultimate sacrifice is FREE…true true true, he freely gave his LIFE paid for our healing, deliverence, salvation…etc… COMPLETLY!!….he simply said, “COME ALL…I WILL GIVE YOU REST…” Seek Him and claim your portion! From Genesis – Revelation, not once did Jesus nor his followers ever called out to anyones past hurts or summoned any spirit for deliverence or healing; did the True Teacher missed something? no Not one, Jesus said to the lady with the blood issue, “Go your faith has healed you”, its’ Truly believing with all your heart, have faith in Jesus! why should we think there is anything else besides Jesus? Go back to the Bible people! Not to your past….Jesus Salvation is the ultimate deliverence for your past, your present and your future!! Humble yourself, repent and get back to the Truth – JESUS! The hour is near and the devil is busy at work, Beware and steadfast, put on the Full Armor of God! You have been given the authority to put the devil under your feet! Sozo, only opens the door for his entertainement; bind him in the name of Jesus, uproot the devil and cast him into the far desert, better off to the lake of fire he belong! Cover yourself with the precious Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ! Allow the Holy Spirit to go before you and protect you and continue to guide you in all your ways to the Truth – Jesus, the ONLY WAY TRUTH AND LIFE… and a Blessed life with Him!


  • So… is: “inner healing” biblical?


    But healing the brokenhearted (Lk 4:18) is; confessing sins to another and prayer for them is (Jam 5:16); casting out demons is (Mk 16:17); setting up godly defenses is (Eph 6:10); speaking prophetic encouragement is (1 Th 5:20); taking thoughts captive is (2 Cor 10:5); releasing the captives is (Lk 4:18); forgiving is (Eph 4:32); renouncing past sinful practices is (2 Cor 4:2); being led by the Spirit is (Rom 8:14); asking God for miraculous input is (Jer 33:3); bearing one another’s burdens is (Gal 6:2); wanting freedom is (Gal 5:1); speaking truth to someone is (Eph 4:15); setting free the oppressed is (Lk 4:18); knowing and saying God is near to the brokenhearted is (Ps 34:18); comforting the afflicted with what God has shown us is (2 Cor 1:4); and… well…you get it.

    Honestly, If another name would help some who fear the whole thing I would be happy to call it Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!


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